Over at Salon.com there is an excellent piece about depression: “Van Gogh on Prozac.”
The piece actually goes into some things I’ve been wanting to post about for quite a while actually, especially based on some recent conversations I’ve had with various people about the nature of depression, the definition of “normal,” the use of prescription medicines to treat mental “illness,” and so on.
First, as a bit of a disclaimer, I am not on any medication. I do not consider myself depressed. At times in my life, I think I probably was (so was it really depression? I don’t know) and considered seeking out therapy and/or medication to help me. That said, I have quite a few friends who are either taking medication, once took medication, or decided not to take medication. I also had a friend in college commit suicide after starting an antidepressant. I also know someone who is a psychology graduate student who seems convinced that I have quite a few psychological problems and is a strong proponent of cognitive behavior therapy.
All that said, I think it’s fair to say that I spend quite a bit of time thinking about mental health issues and have given a lot of thought to the intricacies and whatnot of the issue. Also, the next book I plan to read is Michel Foucault’s Madness and Civilization: A History of Insanity in the Age of Reason (which may not have to do with depression, necessarily, but, I imagine, involves some similar modes of thought).
The most enlightening conversation I had about antidepressants was with a friend of mine who has been taking them for years. I would consider him to be an “artist” (he is currently getting an MFA) and an intellectual. I asked him once whether he felt the antidepressants affected his ability to get in touch with his feelings and produce art. I was, at the time (and maybe still am?), enamored by the idea of the “tortured artist” who is depressed and lonely and all that, sitting alone somewhere creating great works of art that speak to the human existence and the truth of the world and stuff. My friend, however, said that since he started antidepressants, he found he was able to be more prolific because he was more focused and not so blasé about life. He also said that prior to antidepressants, he was more interested in imagery and poetry and that now his poetry isn’t as much like that. (The conversation was a while ago, so I don’t remember many of the specifics.)
Another conversation I remember took place during college. One of my friends was talking to another friend who was on antidepressants, and the friend who wasn’t, but would probably claim that he had some sort of depression, kept talking about how he was glad he wasn’t on antidepressants because he was afraid that they would affect his artistic integrity. As I recall (or maybe this is me being dramatic), my friend, who was on antidepressants, made a comment about how if it weren’t for the antidepressants, she probably wouldn’t be alive and functioning, so he should shut up and stop being pretentious.
Both of these little stories touch on the common belief that somehow equates a depressed person with an artist who is in touch with the truth and brutality of human existence.
The author (Peter Kramer, who wrote Listening to Prozac and Against Depression) interviewed in the Salon.com article strongly disagrees with this point. The article makes his point clear:
Depression, in many people’s minds, is integral to the creative temperament. We might lose some of the triumphs of art and culture if it were wiped away.
This vision of depression [of “the depression was not her fundamental self, or a window into buried feelings”] flies in the face of the common belief that the depressed are deeper and more authentic than the cheerful rabble. Kramer rails against the notion that depression is the only honest, thoughtful response to a cruel world, that we must choose between despair (or a kind of sardonic brooding) and a plastic, smiley-face mask of denial.
The psychology student that I know makes a claim like this. He says that because, he claims, I am so aware of the “cruel world,” that the only way I know how to cope is with “sardonic brooding.” So this example really struck me.
Based on the article, it sounds like Kramer advocates a combination of antidepressants and therapy. I’m willing to bet that the “therapy” involved would be cognitive therapy.
Cognitive therapy, based on my understanding, basically means making the patient self-aware of small things that he or she can do in order to make his or her life more livable. That is, make the patient cognitive of negative behaviors so that the patient can change them.
To me, and based on the psychology guy’s attempt at using cognitive therapy on me, this can be pretty torturous to the patient. Imagine feeling depressed or insecure or anxious and going to a therapist and having him or her tell you that the key to being happier is being more social. Well duh, you probably knew that already… but you don’t feel like being social. So as part of the therapy, the therapist tells you to go to a crowded mall every weekend and spend an hour walking around. Gradually over time, increase that to two hours, three hours, whatever.
As far as I can tell, when cognitive therapy doesn’t work, the blame seems to fall on the patient because he or she wasn’t trying hard enough to change or whatever or worse yet, that the patient “doesn’t really want to change.” This really pisses me off.
Cognitive therapy, in my opinion, is just trying to candy-coat one’s condition (if that metaphor makes sense?). Rather than really treating the underlying issue (anxiety, failure to get over some trauma from the past, etc.), the therapist just tells the patient to “be more happy” and “try harder at life.” If that doesn’t work, the patient is blamed (not explicitly, but rather indirectly) and probably ends up feeling more anxious.
One of the reasons I think I still like psychoanalysis, from some perspective, is that it looks to identify some “core” or “kernel” of a problem (“my mother was distant”, “I saw two dogs fucking when I was three years old”, whatever) and goes to that root in order to deal with your current problems. Yes, a lot of these root problems are ridiculous, so maybe it’s the belief that there is something deep down that can solve (not cover) the problem.
This loops back, again, to my overall theory of therapy. The psychology major I know argues that the goal of psychology is to allow the patient to live a happy life and function in society. I, on the other hand, think that psychology should solve the problem that makes the patient unhappy.
All this said, I’m no expert on any of these topics — like I said, I just think about them a lot. If this ever gets picked up by Google, I’m sure I can expect a barrage of angry psychology students debunking my thoughts. Oh well. That’ll just make me more anxious anyway.
As someone who has been on anti-depressants in the past, works currently as a counselor, and employs cognitive therapy in my sessions with clients – I have way to many thoughts… as well as a number of follow-up questions. But I’ll wait till the next time we talk on the phone or hang out. I just want to hit a few major points.
#1 – Most counselors would say that the primary function of therapy is to address the presenting concerns and goals that a client brings to the table. Counselors may offer insight, but should not have there own agendas. So – the goal of therapy should only be to “live a happy life and function in society” if that is what the client is looking for.
#2 – I think you have a misconception of what cognitive therapy looks like in action. While it can be used long term – it’s mostly used as a tool in brief therapy models. Often, clients don’t have the option (due to insurance or other factors) to see their therapists for the length of time needed for psychoanalytic counseling. Cognitive therapy is a way to address the client’s needs in a shorter period of time.
Also – it’s not always about getting clients to do the opposite of whatever is comfortable. It’s about using excercises as tools. So, for instance, if I have a client who gets stuck and obsesses over negetive self-talk, I might have him or her keep a journal of positive things that happen to them. Sounds cheesy, right? But the client already has a tendancy to obsess. So, I’m using that to his or her advantage… so they start repeating a different script. It’s just about shifting behavior.
Of course, this is a very basic example… but I’m short on time and have to run so it’s the best I’ve got for now. ttyl
I agree with you. Cognitive therapy simple involves having the patient lie to him/herself over and over about his opinions about himself and others over and over until he/she is magically brainwashed and void of negative thoughts. Exapmle, the counselor asks you why you are depressed. you say I am ugly, fat, and I look like a man. So as your “therapy” you are to go home and tell youself I am beautiful, and shapely, and guys like me 3x a day even though you tip 200lbs on the scale. And because of that men will suddenly don shallow hal goggles and you will become gwyneth paltro to yourself and the world. What BS! Telling yourself something that you don’t believe is illogical and stupid and could be worse. Two things can happen 1. you try do do the exercise as you should and break down to tears because you know its not true, and, had you not been forced to bring up those thoughts in your head multiple times a day, you might be in the bathroom purging 1x a day instead of three. Or 2. You could become successfully brainwashed, morph into gwyneth paltro, and roam the town in your hot new outfit you got when you were feeling great about yourself that makes you look fatter and more disgusting, then flirt with every single guy you think is attractive, cept reality is there is no shallow hal goggles and they just see you as a creepy crazy fat chick. And the sad thing is, they could have at least been freinds with you before when you hated yourself, but now you are so annoying they don’t want to be around you at all.
To build self esteem you have to accept the situation and be proud of the situation. If someone hates something about themself that find important, they need to deal with that honestly. And telling someone they shouldn’t hold their physical appearance to any regard because they have other traits that are good (intelligence, etc) Maybe she wants someone to like her for “superficial” reasons, even if she goes out with someone who likes her “brain” she won’t feel fullfilled and will be wasting her and that person’s time. So that leaves a pretty hopeless situation right? Maybe so. People die, people get cancer. Some things there’s just no fix for. I’d rather be depressed all the time than live a lie, being in denial of who I am.